Which brand of coenzyme q-10 to use?

BSGfan · Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 73

I would like to begin using co-enzyme q-10 in an attempt to alleviate
statin induced neuromuscular pain.

Can anyone recommend a good brand available in the Southern California/Los Angeles County area?

cjbrooksjc · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 1056 Location: Fort Worth, Texas

My Cardiologist recommends Jarrow Q-Absorb Ubiquinol; @200Mg prior to each of three daily meals. Google Jarrow.

Regards,

Brooks

Dee · Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 194

Hi Brooks,

I have often noticed Jarrow recommended for Q10 and K2. Is Jarrow considered superior to other brands, and if so, who has the best prices?

I have googled Jarrow to try to locate a good retailer, but if you or anyone else has a recommendation, I would appreciate your opinion.

Thanks!

carbuffmom · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 131

Hi Brooks:

I just noticed that you take your Ubiquinol before your meals. How long do you wait before eating? I have always taken mine with my meals. Perhaps I have been doing the wrong thing....Thanks.

Dee:

I get my Jarrow QH Absorb from iherb.com

My best, Deb

cjbrooksjc · Joined: 13 Dec 2006 Posts: 1056 Location: Fort Worth, Texas

Deb: I take Q10 at least 30 minutes before eating or 2 hours after. I don't remember the reason. Perhaps it was on the bottle or I read it on the internet - I can't recall. I get my Jarrow from Iherb as well. (what a strange sentence)

Regards,

Brooks

Ray Holder · Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007 6:16 am Post subject:

The 30 minutes before and 2 hours after a meal protocol applies to Carnitine, Q10 is best taken in a meal containg at least a little fat or oil, as it is only soluble in those.
Having said that, I see that the Jarrow Absorb Q10 is not in an oil capsule, and this has put me into a sort of quandary, as I have just ordered some from iHerb and wonder if I need oil or fat to accompany it. I have not yet found any definitive information on the subject. Also, it is only 100 mg, and my usual dose is 200mg 3 times a day. I shall very soon find out the hard way whether it is equivalent to 200 mg ubiquinone Q10 or not.

Ray

carbuffmom · Joined: 22 Mar 2006 Posts: 131

Hi Ray:

I am very interested to hear how it works for you. I have been using it for about 2 weeks (200 mg with each meal). I usually take 1200 mg per day of the other. Can't say I have noticed any real difference, but with an ALS diagnosis, I don't think I am a good example.

Keep us posted. I hope you do even better on it.

DEB

Dee · Joined: 21 Oct 2005 Posts: 194

Thanks Deb and Brooks for the info on Iherb. I did come across it when I was checking out various vendors.

Jarrow has a local distributor near here, so I will check the prices there, and if too high, I will go with Iherb.

Thanks again.

crafty · Joined: 21 Jun 2006 Posts: 9 Location: Castle Rock, CO

My research has shown Costco to have best price for CoQ10. 150mg
are 33 cents each.

Ray Holder · Posted: Tue Sep 18, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject:

Beware of buying Q10 solely on price considerations. One should ensure that it emanates from Kaneka, with factories in Japan and USA, that is the only top quality Q10. I find that the only really reliable brand here in UK is Pharmanord, but it is expensive. I have tried several brands and am currently getting back on Ph Nord to get my reference point back, but I have got some iHerb Healthy Origins (Kaneka) Q10 which I will try after reaching stability again. It is cheap, even after postage to UK, and appears to be OK.

I have such a need for Q10 that any shortfall in my intake results in either angina or raised blood pressure in a week or two. I have not yet found a suitable alternative supply here, but have high hopes for the H O brand @ $28 for 150 x 100 mg. If it does work it will be an affordable alternative for UK users.

Ray

Ray Holder · Posted: Mon Sep 24, 2007 10:27 am Post subject:

A little while ago, someone on the forum was advocating the use of idebenone, another form of Q10, it may have been adec, but I am not sure. This has puzzled me and I think, through various bits of in formation in various places, I have solved the mystery.

The first site, can't remember which one now, gave a list of the alternative names for Q10, and idebenone was one, but with synthetic in brackets after the name. I thought that was peculiar, as I believed all artificial Q10 would have been called synthetic, but not so, the Kaneka Q10 website shows a synthetic version, made using tobacco waste,( the cis system), and then the fermentation system. It appears that the synthesised version still contains some of the cis, which is not present in the body or in the fermentation produced variety.

I believe Dr Karl Folkers first produced Q10 by synthesis, but the fermentation process was introduced in Japan when Merck had sold off the rights to them, and Kaneka Q10 seems to be the gold standard type.

I was surprised to see that China is now producing Q10, reports of Asian drugs have not been too encouraging !!

Ray

BSGfan · Joined: 30 Jul 2007 Posts: 73

Most brands of Co enzyme Q-10 available in my local pharmacies and supermarkets have an admixture of soybean oil. Unfortunately, I get migraines, and like most migraine patients I am losing my tolerance for soy products. I find that most Q-10 with soybean oil will give me a moderate, but perfectly tolerable, headache for a few hours following a dosage. This seems above and beyond the usual vasodilation discomfort I have post dosage of Q-10, so I suspect it is a soy reaction, although numerous people in this forum have complained that headaches are a common side effect of Q-10 use.

Can anyone recommend any Q-10 brands that are not made with soybean oil?

SusieO · Joined: 14 Oct 2005 Posts: 191 Location: Georgia

I started taking a brand that is soy free; XYMOGEN CoQmax CF 50 mg - 2 times a day (but for my first month I am going to only take 1 a day to see how I do). My wellness doctor told me to take it during the middle of the meal I am eating.

On the label is states: "Guaranteed free of wheat, gluten, corn protein, yeast, soy, artificial colors, sweetners or preservatives.

pgrimm · Joined: 21 Feb 2008 Posts: 104

Dr. Golomb also recommends Jarrow. What I can add here is that if you are ordering it, make sure that it does not take a long hot journey. Heat will damage the product. Best to purchase locally, even if you pay a bit more. As the doctor said, "Sitting in the hot back room of a post office is not good". It's oil based, and oil can become rancid. Fed-Ex is better. Also do not store near heat. Look for freshness.

Ray Holder · Posted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 3:40 pm Post subject:

The brand of CoQ10 capsule does not matter as much as the maker of the Q10 inside it. I have found nothing as good as Kaneka Q10, it is in Jarrow, Healthy Origins and Pharmanord, and probably others. I have had many unsatisfactory brands, and now buy solely one of the Kaneka containing kind. Some other makers of Q10 do not employ the same process, and impurities from the earlier method remain in the product.

Most of mine comes all the way to England from California, it is freshly manufactured, and I have not yet found any that has gone off.

As Kaneka now have a Q10 plant in USA it has a much shorter journey than previously, when only made in Japan

Ray